$20,000 Of Titanium… Wasted!

Honestly, it’s not quite as dramatic as it sounds (but it is still very real).

Take a look at this photo:

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Now, truthfully, I really don’t know if it’s $20,000 of titanium …it could be $10,000 …or it could be $30,000.

The above photo is my “scrap box” of questionable prototypes, quality-control failures, mis-cuts, bad-finishes, forehead-slapping silly mistakes, … and pretty well damn near everything that can’t be offered for sale.

I’m making less and less of these mistakes – but I doubt they will even completely disappear. I have no real reason for showing you thing …just thought you might be interested in pointing-and-laughing at me and my screw-ups a little bit. 😛

Next up…

A cool new project I think is worthy of your attention:

Titanium Beads (click here)

It’s just launching as I write this. One of the reasons for telling you about this project is that I’m doing the surface finishing for the titanium beads.

Over the last few weeks — with dozens upon dozens of hours testing and tweaking — I’ve managed to get a mirror-finish polish on these beads. Check them out:

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So, yeah, you can check out the project by clicking here.

I’ve been very quiet recently and so I’m going to do my damn best to get more prototypes and such out to show you. 🙂

P.S. Oh, and just to anticipate someone asking me if they can have some of the “rejects” …please understand that I don’t let anything out of the workshop that isn’t 100% passed quality control. If it’s not perfect then it’s into the trash!

  • Jason says:

    Maybe a good stretch goal would a leather strap to be included?

  • Din says:

    I don’t really get the point of the thousand of dollars wasted subject. I initially thought you plan to sell some of it to off-set some of your losses. Some of your blog posts and Kickstarter updates were pretty random.

    • Kane says:

      It’s called click bait and as we are both here, it worked.

      • Oops! I definitely screwed-up on this post. I thought you might not be interested in only a post about the beads (since I posted about them yesterday) …and so I threw in the “rejects” thing.

        Sometimes I do get a bit over-the-top with my subject/headings …so, yeah, I posted this last night and can now see how it looks kinda tacky this morning.

        My apologies about this – I will endeavour to not write such poor posts in the future!

        • Robert Ferguson says:

          Magnus, maybe you have bonanza looking back at you in your “rejects” pile. Why not cut them up into small pieces and make titanium toothpicks or game board pieces, or melt them down and make fishermen’s sinkers or fish hooks. You have a good imagination, put it to use.

        • Robert Ferguson says:

          Magnus,

          How about cutting them up into small pieces and tumbling them. You could sell them by the pound as tumbled beads for whatever purpose they may be used. Think mini Zen gardens, flower pots, bean bags, etc. or maybe even titanium needles. You could donate them to artists to use in making mosaics. I don’t like to waste materials.

        • Geary says:

          You could have at the very least taken a click worthy picture of said scrap. I can’t tell how much that is from your image, you cut off all edges so their is no reference for scale.
          How much does 20k or 10k or 30k Dollars, Weight? For that matter, does that figure include the value of your time and work put in, or is that how much a bucket of g5 titanium cost? I’ll I’m saying is I feel like I put more effort into this post that you did with the subject matter of you email. And don’t forget you emailed me about scrap titanium. Would have been nice to some is all.

  • Damon says:

    How about a grab bag from the “Titanium Wasted” pile? Set a price and you get 3-5 pieces. Some look complete with just small problem or blems? Just to play with…

  • Enrique says:

    It looks like you need to get a plasma oven to start recycling it! 😉

  • Aaron says:

    Time to start making your own Moku-Ti!

  • TRT says:

    Mmm… I can make a few quid on the side selling as scrap out of certificate titanium rotors for centrifuges. Not much, though.

  • Amro says:

    I’d buy some. Surely they’re worth something as scrap?

  • Nick Angello says:

    I think the grab-bag would be pretty cool too. A mystery bag with a couple items.

    That Ti-Claw with the number 5 engraved on it looks pretty complete to me.

    I know that some of your products are sold with a high polished finish (which looks great), but some people may like the tumbled, “stone-wash” type of finish that those parts look to have.

    Just a thought.

  • Srinivas says:

    Well, look at it as $20,000 worth of experience.

  • Donald Perreault says:

    Srinivas, stated the most intelligent comment, of which I agree with.

  • Hussein Al-Sahlan says:

    I still think you should take out that wasted titanium screw ups, find the ones that have some hope, and sell them for cheaper as a defected item, some people do buy defected stuff that can still be used!, just mark them in someway that everyone could differentiate it between an original one, so no one would resell it as an original! Its an idea to cutdown losses or get back some of what you wasted. Food for thought

  • Tucker says:

    Magnus, man… I just quickly counted over 15 HangKeys in that pile. I ordered mine 2 weeks ago. Not a peep on it shipping yet. I know.. Patience is a virtue, and good things come to those who wait… But shoot, its a HangKey and I’m dying to get it. Just send me one from that pile! 🙂 (Preferably from the gold hue test pile!!) 🙂

    • I can confirm your order was shipped just after you placed it (the email confirmation will almost certainly be in your spam/junk …because I was having email issue – which are now sorted).

      Your HangKey should not be too far away now.

      • Tucker says:

        So stoked to hear this!! I know New Zealand is a few minutes away from the east coast of the US. 😉 Once again.. Patience is a virtue..

        Seriously though, I can’t wait to see it in person!

  • Adam says:

    I’ve been a machinist for nearly twenty years and I still make the odd cock up here and there so don’t feel too bad Magnus!

  • Raul says:

    – Every single “maker” makes mistakes.
    – Every single “maker” needs to fail when trying. To learn.
    – Not every failure is completely disposable.
    – Sell functional pieces as “2nd. selection”. (Loss reduction.)
    – Sell the rest to your raw-materials provider. I’m sure they get it for some money.
    – Check scrap-collectors. They know.

  • Peter Amsel says:

    In the movie “Amadeus” it depicts Mozart as writing his music perfectly, without ever writing sketches or errors. The truth of the matter is that he did create sketches for his works (that’s why his final composition, the “Requiem” was able to be completed by a pupil of his, based on his own sketches and other existing materials already composed). Mozart’s wife, Constanza Webber, systematically went about burning most of his sketches and “rough work” after his death in 1792 in order to preserve the appearance that her husband composed with supernatural abilities.

    Making mistakes, as an artist, is part of the process. As a composer myself (and writer) I cannot tell you how many times I’ve looked at a manuscript and scratched out large sections (I compose in ink, so it often results in a real mess before the sketch is entered into the computer program to make the final engraving). My novels are another story: after sending my first manuscript to the publisher for consideration I’ve found several small errors, but they’ve now been corrected, and the book is better as a result. Books have errors in them, it’s just the way it is; I’ve never seen a book that was completely perfect.

    We may strive for perfection, but in so doing we discover that the creative process is inherently connected to our imperfect humanity.

  • Jared says:

    I apologize for the negativity and I normally wouldn’t post, but I feel this is ridiculous click-bait. We all appreciate your very high standards. That is why customers pay a premium for your fine products. I think it would be great if you sold items from your scrap bin at discount to reduce losses as long as they are clearly marked “bad finish” or “incorrect hex size”, etc.
    I enjoy the honest and humble quality of your blog, but I’m beginning to question if this is a strategy for marketing purposes.

    • Jared, yes, for sure – I screwed-up on this one. Both your comment and a couple of comments above have highlights this to me.

      I’m learning from this (hopefully!) and will think a little more before I run off and stack typing and clicking on my keyboard!

      I really appreciate the honest feedback. Thank you.

  • Vincent Goudreault says:

    Titanium is recyclable. All those shavings from machining the pillpots and the onepen? Recyclable (I remember inquiring about them).
    If you have a proper controlling atmosphere (titanium does not like some contaminant) it can even be ground to powder suitable for sintering additive processes.

  • Kevin says:

    Why don’t you use a cheaper metal for prototyping? People often even 3D print their prototypes these days.

  • Ti2 Design says:

    I get it… I have the same box at my shop. But I am a manufacturer too. 🙂

  • Erik says:

    Stamp it with a B, and sell them. Most other makers do the sane in some way. Saddleback leather has a cool way of dealing with error pieces. A 5, 10, or 25 % discount depending on the severity of the issue. All have an s stamped onto them to mark then as a second. It keeps your costs low, which keeps your prices low, while also giving people a chance to buy your stuff that are more easily able to part with 75% of the asking price. Once they see how good your stuff is, they buy more and at full price.

    We all get that you’re a perfectionist. You wouldn’t be a machinist, designer, engineer, and entrepreneur if you weren’t. But, you’re also a businessman, and this situation is a business decision. 20k in just material cost in that bucket must still be what, 40k at least in discounted retail value.

    You get to clear of some loss material and potentially clear a profit on it. We get the chance at discounted products, and they are marked so as not to diminish your brand. Hell, I would be happy to act as a reseller or distributor to help you.

    You see it in every industry. Refurbished products, factory seconds, blemished, open box, etc. Either by the manufacturer, or a second party it’s a business in itself.

    Or not, fuck it. Keep it as a cool box of lessons learned abs cool titanium trinkets.

  • Erik says:

    But to all of you complaining about it.
    Shut the hell up.
    It’s a blog. Not everything is going to be product announcements or groundbreaking. Every post is a thought in process. This could lead to something, or could be forgotten. Nobody forces you to read it. No need to be a dick.

  • Erik says:

    Hell, I’ll take your box of “trash” so you don’t have to worry about it. I’ll even pay shipping.

    Pretty please!

  • Andrew says:

    I missed out on the viperfish. I’ll take a defective one!

  • Mark miller says:

    You can sell defective shapes (cut in half to keep them out of the original market) to potters. They use Ti scrap as a barrier between their pots and the kiln shelves to prevent sticking from molten glass glaze that drips down.

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